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  The pope apologized to a group today -- has the GB ever done that?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  2. scandals

  i understand that the group was comprised of sex abuse victims at the hands of church clergy.

  that got me to thinking -- has the gb ever apologized to the flock?

  its teachings that are compulsory have been relaxed numerous times over the years.

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  FatFreek 2005

  I understand that the group was comprised of sex abuse victims at the hands of church clergy. That got me to thinking -- has the GB ever apologized to the flock? Its teachings that are compulsory have been relaxed numerous times over the years. Prohibitions of blood transfusions, organ transplants, imprisonment for refusal to serve in the military, failed prophetic dates that encouraged JW's to sell their homes, quit their regular jobs, etc. Ms Conti, the victim of the recent sex abuse -- has she been apologized to?

  The victims of all this have never, to my knowledge, received those magical words, "We're sorry".

  What say ya'll?

  Len
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  Would it be possible to get notifications of replies, to Topics we've subscribed to, in the future?

  by defender of truth in

  1. forum
  2. suggestions

  i'm not complaining, jwn is an excellent research and discussion site, and easy to use.

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  it's just that i feel i have to scroll back through pages of threads every day to see who, if anyone, has replied to me.. only asking, thank you for your hard work, simon and the mods..

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  FatFreek 2005

  I always "Bookmark this page"using my Chrome browser, all of my posts, creating a brief description of the topic and the count of views at that moment. When I get done with this one, for example, I will have added a bookmark labeled "notification of replies, 261".

  That way, I can find the exact thread easily; plus the number of reads after my post is derived by subtraction.

  Len
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  Disfellowshipping - The 10 year rule?

  by Gembean in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it true there is a 10 year rule?

  i was reading on here when i saw someone quote it?

  i've never heard of it before!.

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  FatFreek 2005

  I was df'd in '77 (37 years ago). Two sons continue to shun me. One of them has 3 children, oldest 24, whom I have never met.
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  Reconciling animals and suffering

  by Pacopoolio in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we know that christians generally go through ridiculous mental voodoo to explain why a benevolent god allows human suffering, and none of it makes any sense, or is filled with bunk logic.

  that's what happens when you try and retrofit a jewish "god is good and evil" religion into a benevolent religion.. .

  one of the biggest "trips" to a jw/christian in continuing this line of thought is asking them why god would create animals simply to suffer and die, then, after they try to blame everything on adam (whose brain god supposedly created, and who put him into the exact situation that had an influence on that brain to cause him to sin).

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  Reconciling animals and suffering

  by Pacopoolio in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we know that christians generally go through ridiculous mental voodoo to explain why a benevolent god allows human suffering, and none of it makes any sense, or is filled with bunk logic.

  that's what happens when you try and retrofit a jewish "god is good and evil" religion into a benevolent religion.. .

  one of the biggest "trips" to a jw/christian in continuing this line of thought is asking them why god would create animals simply to suffer and die, then, after they try to blame everything on adam (whose brain god supposedly created, and who put him into the exact situation that had an influence on that brain to cause him to sin).

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  Reconciling animals and suffering

  by Pacopoolio in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we know that christians generally go through ridiculous mental voodoo to explain why a benevolent god allows human suffering, and none of it makes any sense, or is filled with bunk logic.

  that's what happens when you try and retrofit a jewish "god is good and evil" religion into a benevolent religion.. .

  one of the biggest "trips" to a jw/christian in continuing this line of thought is asking them why god would create animals simply to suffer and die, then, after they try to blame everything on adam (whose brain god supposedly created, and who put him into the exact situation that had an influence on that brain to cause him to sin).

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  FatFreek 2005

  To preface my comments, I am having a turkey breast sandwich for lunch. Sorry, Tom, for your suffering.

  A very good post. To go further, where is the line in the creature kingdom that we humans should treat them "humanely"? I regularly kill and poison armadillos, mosquitos, roaches, and fire ants. When riding my bicycle, I will go that far when a dog invades my space. Inside my house, anything not invited is fair game. When I hit a deer while driving a few years ago I stopped and turned around. If I had found the ailing deer I was prepared to put it to sleep. Why? If I kill a squirrel or cat why don't I do the same?

  Len
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  Database of all Kingdom Halls?

  by slipnslidemaster in

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  2. friends

  is there a database or mailing list of all kingdom halls in the us?.

  if you also had po names that would be even better.... slipnslidemaster:"it is always the best policy to tell the truth, unless, of course, you are an exceptionally good liar.".

  - jerome k. jerome

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  FatFreek 2005

  Hi Bats,

  I just checked out your tip. Yes, it appears you can get any meeting place in the world but, as far as I can see -- one at a time. They'd probably shut you off after a dozen or so.

  Len
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  How do individual JW's justify Jehovah's Old Testament orders to kill little children even babies (amalekites, canaanites)?

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in 1. samuel 15:2-3 we read jehovah's order to kill "all" amalekites.

  it says "you are to put them to death, man as well as woman, child as well as infant...".

  in deuteronomy 2:32-34 the israelites say about sihon.

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  The Old Testament was Jehovah's learning curve.

  Len
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  Help with some questions on "new light"

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  2. friends

  for a future conversation i will have with my mother i need some questions answered.

  otherwise i will have to search and read through jw literature and i rather not :0. what was the teaching of 1919 during 1980's and 1990's (this is when i was active and my mother became a witness)?.

  what is the current teaching of 1919?.

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  FatFreek 2005

  A free download, The Great Watchtower Contradiction, may be one of your choice sources since it cites some 25 watchtower references. The Watchtower Library CD is recommended. It's an 11 minute read if you skip the supportive endnote references. Watchtower teaches that they haven't contradicted (some people call them flip-flops) themselves in their teachings but this will blow your mind, in essence, proving them a liar on that score many times over.

  Len
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  Why Did the Governing Body Change Their Interpretation Of Matthew 24:45-47?

  by Cameron_Don in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some have wondered if "captives of a concept" had anything to do with why the governing body changed their interpretation of the most important scripture in their theology at their annual meeting on october 6, 2012.. this is because the book places great emphasis on the societys interpretation of matthew 24:45-47 and then holds them to it while examining the organizations history to make sure that went on in its history fits their interpretation.

  this comparison is essential to the societys claim to being gods organization.. their previous interpretation came from their former most imminent bible scholar president frederick franzs in his "gods kingdom of a thousand years has approached.

  " their history comes from their "jehovahs witnesses proclaimers of gods kingdom.".

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  FatFreek 2005

  I just found their annual report here, http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/events/annual-meeting-report-2012/

  Here's what they say within that report about 1919:

  The evidence points to the following conclusion: "The faithful and discreet slave" was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as "the faithful and discreet slave."

  From that, I don't see where they've changed anything. Am I missing something here?

  Len Miller